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« on: May 26, 2008, 06:03:56 AM »

"What we're seeing here is a degree of control within the government, within the caucus ... that we haven't seen for a very long time," Taras said.

That control extends to every corner of government. At a recent news conference, senior military officers were under government orders to answer reporters' questions only on the condition that they were not identified.

"I have to live within that limitation," Lt.-Gen. Walter Natynczyk, vice-chief of defence staff, told reporters.

That kind of zeal for message control is taking a political toll on the minority Conservatives who have had a tough time boosting popular support to majority territory, Taras said.

"You can control events for so long, you can only manipulate for so long and ultimately I think this has harmed the Harper government to the extent that Harper's image has become `Mr. Partisan, Mr. Mean, Mr. Control Freak,'" he said.

"It's just got to a point where control is the image of what his government is. That's damaging. ... You wonder what they're running from and what they're afraid of," he said.

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2008, 07:24:08 AM »

Harper has shown that he plans well but he and his gov react poorly, image and message control are the only way to keep a lid on things but it has become a double edge sword it buys his slow reacting gov time but at the expense of trust and timeliness.  And that would be when the reaction although slow is actually appropriate, many times it appears as though they are fumbling in the dark and message control is actually damage control, pretty sad really.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2008, 10:16:09 AM »

I think Harper astutely realizes that Ottawa and the Liberal rag-mills hunting for material there would ultimately only spin his message into horrendous perversions anyway. So to deny them the opportunity he cuts them off and weathers the storm.

Harper apparently has a very embattled mindset. His, "western victory" he assumes (probably correctly) would always be undermined and robbed of legitimacy by long time Liberal media, supporter, and supporting network of individuals there and in general inhabiting the senior levels of government and civil service.

Turning to his inner circle, and driven to a personal redoubt is actually the better of the two options for his popularity in my opinion.

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2008, 10:20:54 AM »

I think Harper astutely realizes that Ottawa and the Liberal rag-mills hunting for material there would ultimately only spin his message into horrendous perversions anyway. So to deny them the opportunity he cuts them off and weathers the storm.

Harper apparently has a very embattled mindset. His, "western victory" he assumes (probably correctly) would always be undermined and robbed of legitimacy by long time Liberal media, supporter, and supporting network of individuals there and in general inhabiting the senior levels of government and civil service.

Turning to his inner circle, and driven to a personal redoubt is actually the better of the two options for his popularity in my opinion.



Funny I never thought of either the National post or the globe and mail as "liberal" media  Nor the toronto sun, calgary sun etc.  But it is always best to just label them all as liberal, then the tories have the excuse for every failure etc.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2008, 10:34:49 AM »

I think Harper astutely realizes that Ottawa and the Liberal rag-mills hunting for material there would ultimately only spin his message into horrendous perversions anyway. So to deny them the opportunity he cuts them off and weathers the storm.

Harper apparently has a very embattled mindset. His, "western victory" he assumes (probably correctly) would always be undermined and robbed of legitimacy by long time Liberal media, supporter, and supporting network of individuals there and in general inhabiting the senior levels of government and civil service.

[b]Turning to his inner circle, and driven to a personal redoubt is actually the better of the two options for his popularity in my opinion.
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That hasn't shown up in the polls. In fact, referring to Harpers "popularity" is a misnomer if there ever was one. Harper has more to fear from his hidden agenda than he does the liberal media.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2008, 10:38:30 AM »

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Harper has more to fear from his hidden agenda than he does the liberal media.

Care to elaborate on Mr. Harpers' "hidden agenda" - it sounds intriguing and sexy.  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2008, 10:43:22 AM »

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Harper has more to fear from his hidden agenda than he does the liberal media.

Care to elaborate on Mr. Harpers' "hidden agenda" - it sounds intriguing and sexy.  Tongue

If I were to elaborate on it, it wouldn't be hidden, now would it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2008, 10:47:27 AM »

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Harper has more to fear from his hidden agenda than he does the liberal media.

Care to elaborate on Mr. Harpers' "hidden agenda" - it sounds intriguing and sexy.  Tongue

If I were to elaborate on it, it wouldn't be hidden, now would it.

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2008, 01:12:57 PM »

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If I were to elaborate on it, it wouldn't be hidden, now would it.

I better keep my eye on you.
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2008, 02:49:29 PM »

Part of Harper's hidden agenda lies in the successful integration of Canada, the US and Mexico - the North American Union under one flag, one government and one monetary system. That's been his hidden agenda since Day One of his bid to become PM. That's his "job" as outlined in the Bilderberg Group master agenda.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2008, 02:56:37 PM »

Part of Harper's hidden agenda lies in the successful integration of Canada, the US and Mexico - the North American Union under one flag, one government and one monetary system. That's been his hidden agenda since Day One of his bid to become PM. That's his "job" as outlined in the Bilderberg Group master agenda.

That's a good find GE.
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2008, 03:08:05 PM »

I actually wrote an article on the Bilderberg Group back in 2006. Harper was one of the attendees at that time.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2008, 04:35:56 PM »

Continental integration is also a Liberal ideal.
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2008, 06:17:22 PM »

Part of Harper's hidden agenda lies in the successful integration of Canada, the US and Mexico - the North American Union under one flag, one government and one monetary system. That's been his hidden agenda since Day One of his bid to become PM. That's his "job" as outlined in the Bilderberg Group master agenda.

conspirazoid mind freak - how dare you utter such dribble - it is good business NOT conspiracy - 'cmon - everyone konws there is no hidden agenda - we have transparent governing in Canada - put a chip in that so we can keep an eye on you -
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2008, 07:43:12 PM »

good business, if you have something interesting to say and I'm sure you do, I'd love to hear it.
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