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« on: May 09, 2008, 02:36:30 PM »

A Via Rail train has been quarantined in a small northern Ontario community Friday after one person died and several others reported feeling ill.

The train had been travelling from Vancouver to Toronto when it made its regular Friday morning stop in Foleyet, Ont. The town of 380 people is about 100 kilometres southwest of Timmins.

Via Rail spokeswoman Catherine Kaloutsky confirmed one person had died, but the cause of death isn't clear.

OPP Const. Marc Depatie said police first heard about the death around 9 a.m. ET. He said he believed the woman who died was in her 60s and had boarded the train in Jasper as part of a tour group. Depatie said there were reports she had flu-like symptoms when she boarded.

Depatie said seven other members of the group have reported feeling flu-like symptoms.

Scary stuff

Hope this isn't the beginning of something serious and contagious...like SARS.
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2008, 05:25:56 PM »

And so it starts...
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2008, 05:27:52 PM »

They've updated the story.  The death is not related to the other illness.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2008, 06:55:02 PM »

More media-induced hysteria. Agnew called the media "nattering nabobs of negativism" but to me the mass media are mendacious merchants of misery (TM Regd.).
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2008, 07:40:18 PM »

Ah, so the media are not allowed to report on anything which has the potential to cause concern to the general public, right?
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2008, 08:17:12 PM »

Ah, so the media are not allowed to report on anything which has the potential to cause concern to the general public, right?

Responsible reporting is never a problem. But the mass media these days seem to think it is their job to create news, and hype things, particularly negative things, to whip the public into a frenzy.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2008, 10:35:49 PM »

At some point, I was waiting for the media to start speculating about a grey fog that was roaming the train and causing the death.

As said as the death was, it was also a train full of elderly who are very susceptible to bugs.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2008, 10:36:35 PM »

A Via rail train stops dead in its tracks on its way to Toronto

They report to the authorities that one passenger is dead

They report that there are 10 other passengers who are complaining of "flu-like" symptoms

The group affected were part of a tour group out of Jasper.

Nowhere was this reporting anything near irresponsible nor was it a attempt to "whip the public into a frenzy".

I imagine KP that had this incident not been reported at all and a month later we found out about it, people like you would be bitching about our right to know being infringed upon and our information being filtered by those who believe that we should only be told what the powers that be WANT us to know.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2008, 12:26:48 AM »

More media-induced hysteria. Agnew called the media "nattering nabobs of negativism" but to me the mass media are mendacious merchants of misery (TM Regd.).

Watch out here comes the killer bees! We are all going to be killed by bees! Oh wait this is not bees....

We are all going to be killed by Via Rail!
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2008, 07:31:25 PM »

A Via rail train stops dead in its tracks on its way to Toronto

They report to the authorities that one passenger is dead


I imagine when a passenger dies en route it is SOP to stop the train and report the incident. Hardly news.

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They report that there are 10 other passengers who are complaining of "flu-like" symptoms

The group affected were part of a tour group out of Jasper.

Nowhere was this reporting anything near irresponsible nor was it a attempt to "whip the public into a frenzy".

The version I saw -- I think on CBC -- was very alarming. It left the viewer to assume that the two incidents were somehow related and others on board were at serious risk. The reporter didn't bother to find out that the dead person was an elderly passenger who boarded feeling unwell.

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I imagine KP that had this incident not been reported at all and a month later we found out about it, people like you would be bitching about our right to know being infringed upon and our information being filtered by those who believe that we should only be told what the powers that be WANT us to know.

All paranoia aside, the mass media caters to that mindset by letting people believe there are nefarious things associated with just about everything that occurs. It is part deliberate insinuation, part plain old incompetence and laziness. It is the same thing we are seeing locally right now with the two hot stories of the past couple of weeks, the increase in gas prices and the Streatch incident. The Herald manufactueres a false quote in one instance, and ATV continues to run "poor me" victim stories on the other, while neither bothers to offer any info as to the real reasons oil prices are jumping; while in the other they fail to address the most important question: was Judy Streatch lying when she said she paid a premium for additional coverage, or is the govt running away from their responsibilities? It is not the media's job to manufacture sensational stories. It is ther job to accurately report what does go on and leave it at that. If I want the sensation I will buy the Weekly World News. I don't want that on TV or in the Herald.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2008, 08:04:51 PM »

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The Herald manufactueres a false quote in one instance, and ATV continues to run "poor me" victim stories on the other, while neither bothers to offer any info as to the real reasons oil prices are jumping; while in the other they fail to address the most important question: was Judy Streatch lying when she said she paid a premium for additional coverage, or is the govt running away from their responsibilities?

It's not the responsibility of the media to answer questions or provide reasons. The media's responsibility lies in reporting the news. The rest is up to us.

For instance the rising oil prices: the costs are rising because they can. There's no one to stop them and the suits at the top of the oil company ladders are getting richer and richer. Period. As for the "poor me" victim stories of how these rising prices are impacting the average person, they are impacting us. Period. We are all victims in the same way that a sheep is a victim to a hungry pack of foxes.

The Streatch issue: Karma's a bitch. Her first mistake was letting her teenage kid drive the company car. Period.

See? I came to two conclusions all by myself after reading the newspaper. They presented me with the facts and I drew conclusions from those facts.

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2008, 08:55:41 PM »

They don't tell stories, they sell them.
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2008, 09:40:58 PM »

It's not the responsibility of the media to answer questions or provide reasons. The media's responsibility lies in reporting the news. The rest is up to us.

For instance the rising oil prices: the costs are rising because they can. There's no one to stop them and the suits at the top of the oil company ladders are getting richer and richer. Period. As for the "poor me" victim stories of how these rising prices are impacting the average person, they are impacting us. Period. We are all victims in the same way that a sheep is a victim to a hungry pack of foxes.

The Streatch issue: Karma's a bitch. Her first mistake was letting her teenage kid drive the company car. Period.

See? I came to two conclusions all by myself after reading the newspaper. They presented me with the facts and I drew conclusions from those facts.

You poor misguided person. If you believe what you read are "facts" then you are exactly the kind of audience they are seeking.
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2008, 10:28:33 AM »

KP, where do you get your news?
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2008, 01:03:45 PM »

KP, where do you get your news?

party headquarters Grin Grin Grin
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